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Medicine Wheel for Beginners

Guest Host - White Horse Woman

Chatroom Moderator: SapphireHOST

Chat Transcript - May 22,1999
Held in the Healing Chatroom

SapphireHOST: Does everyone have a pencil and notebook???

tazssa: yes why?

whorsew: i need you to draw a few simple symbols

healingADM: whorsew - would you introduce yourself briefly

whorsew: it will be easier to explain things if you have some symbols to see

whorsew: i am white horse woman, i was taught cherokee spiritual ways by my grandmother

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whorsew: who was taught by her grandmother, who was taught by her grandmother, so on and so on

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whorsew: so i have one question for you all

whorsew: do you want me to start at the beginning or at the medicine wheel...how much do you want to learn

tazssa: as much as you care to teach....here

Sandcastle: as much as you want to teach us

healingADM: please start with the basics

whorsew: so first my little disclaimer, what i have been taught is not the only way...it is only one way in many ways....just like a box of chocolate cherokees have many different ways...many flavors

whorsew: and cherokee is only one nation of native americans...so you can see many different ways are out there..however..i do believe we all share some basic beliefs..i will start with those..all children are taught from birth of unseen powers..that all of these powers have been created by the "Maker of All that is.Nothing and No-one is independant, but everything and everyone is dependant upon each other,,,worship is very individual, it is what one is willing to commit to the source of life...the deeper the commitment the stronger the bond between the individual,,.the community...and the unseen powers

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whorsew: community being the area in which one lives and all mother earths children...unseen powers are those that are called into the area in which one lives

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whorsew: like the rain people, people with the knowledge in the sacred traditions are responsible for teaching morals and standards...most tribes have people trained from a very young age in the sacred traditions..some are very specialized and may be very secret knowledge...this knowledge is passed from generation to generation by memory

whorsew: humor is a very important part of sacred traditions

.whorsew: knowing that humans are the weakest of all mother earths children leads us to do foolish things and only through humor can we learn how to act... and why we should act in such a manner...our majour purpose is to keep the world in harmony and balance...t he beginning of all knowledge centers on sustaining harmony and balance

whorsew: any questions

tazssa: is this why clowns are sacred

whorsew: yes that is why clowns are sacred

tazssa: ty k then

whorsew: they are the best teachers, all tribes had clowns in one form or another

whorsew: are you ready to draw a symbol?

SapphireHOST: yes

whorsew: draw one large circle

whorsew: outside of the circle mark directions n e s w

whorsew: put a dot in the center

whorsew: one thrid of the way beteen dot and directions make another dot

healingADM: four of them?

whorsew: yes all four of them

healingADM: ty

whorsew: one third of the way from the center dot

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whorsew: now make a circle that starts at big circle in north and touches south dot

whorsew: then one in east that touches west dot

whorsew: then one in south that touches north dot

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whorsew: then one in west that touches west dot

whorsew: do you have the symbol with five circles?

healingADM: yes

ayla:yes

tazssa: yes

larry: yes

whorsew: sorry deb you will need to read transcript

deborah: where

healingADM: we are drawing the Medicine wheel - this is being transcribed for you to read later deb

whorsew: no don't have symbol sapphire

Sandcastle: no-when you say start at big circle does that mean from top of N to dot at S?

whorsew: yes at north

healingADM: I think nancy and sapp need more help....and sandy

whorsew: north part of big circle

Sandcastle: and go all the way around back to N

whorsew: okay once again

whorsew: draw big circle

starship: my pencil got big eraser

nancy: i am fine but could use a compass!

ayla: me too nancy lol

healingADM: reminds me of spiralgraph

whorsew: mark directions outside of circle - n e s w

whorsew: make a dot at each direction on circle

whorsew: make a dot in center of circle

SapphireHOST: inside right??

starship: 9 dots altogether?

whorsew: yes in the center of circle make dot

healingADM: I'm going to draw this out with Photoshop Adobe later and put a graphic of it alongside the transcript.

whorsew: now five dots

starship: erasing extra dots

healingADM: lol@starship

whorsew: now make a dot one third of the way from center dot to north dot

whorsew: on around the cicle until you have nine dots

starship: putting dots back

healingADM: now I'm lost

Sandcastle: lol

tazssa: lol

SapphireHOST: me too

whorsew: one between the center and each direction, one dot between the center and directional dots

SapphireHOST: is there suppose to be a dot under where we marked the directions???

starship: 9 dots,will that be all?

whorsew: yes

healingADM: do the dots fit on the intersecting circles?

whorsew: representing direction on first circle

larry: another dot at sse ssw ect

SapphireHOST: ohhhh

whorsew: no just these dots to start with

whorsew: not wheel that we are making

whorsew: but a symbol

SapphireHOST: erasing sse dots

whorsew: you should have only 9 dots

whorsew: one in each direction

whorsew: a center dot

healingADM: my drawing shows five circles so far - large circle - with 4 intersecting circles inside of it...is that right?

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whorsew: and one dot between each of the directions and center

whorsew: yestthat is right

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whorsew: does everyone have dots

healingADM: okay whorsew - then where do I place the additional 4 dots - that is where I'm confused

whorsew: you have it adm the symbol, i am trying to make sure others do

healingADM: okay - good

whorsew: now draw a smaller circle inside the big one that goes from north dot to the south dot that is next to center dot

SapphireHOST: north dot that is next to center dot?

whorsew: no north dot to dot next to center dot south

SapphireHOST: k

Sandcastle: do we start at N dot to center s dot?

whorsew: yes

Sandcastle: k

whorsew: north dot that is on first circle

starship: is it 4 dots at rim and 5 dots inside circle?

Sandcastle: and close at N dot?

whorsew: yes

whorsew: so circle overlaps center dot

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whorsew: then do the same with the east dot on circle to the west dot next to center dot

starship: first circle n . to s inside .

healingADM: Aqua - we are just now drawing the Medicine Wheel - check the transcript later on for instructions... ok?

whorsew: yes a circle inside main circle, going from each of the directions so they overlap center

whorsew: four circles inside big circle

starship: k now i got 2 lopped sided circles

Sandcastle: me too

whorsew: don't need to be perfection, we are human. you can fix better later

healingADM: I've got two circles, a potato and a lemon.....hehe

SapphireHOST: I got it !!!! Thanks!

ayla: I went and got a plate to trace lol

whorsew: just need four directional circles in side big circle that overlap, so i can explain some things

healingADM: ayla - you cheater.......lol

ayla: didn't help much lol

healingADM: and I had a drink coaster right here - and didn't think about using it......lol

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whorsew: okay if you don't have it, i will try to explain as i go along what it looks like

healingADM: yes ..continue please

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