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whitehorse:: are you ready to learn how to interput your visions or dreams
whitehorse:: no it is a way of learning boundries
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SapphireHOST: please go on
whitehorse:: any more questions
whitehorse:: this is a real simple thing to draw
SapphireHOST: lol...promise
whitehorse:: draw a large tic tac toe
ayla: more paper!
whitehorse:: are you ready
Lydea: not yet!!!
SapphireHOST: yes
Lydea: is that a 3 by 3 square
whitehorse:: (i want the upper right hand square as an X)
whitehorse:: just kidding....lol
SapphireHOST: lol
ayla: lol
whitehorse:: yes 3 X 3 squares
Aquastar: wiping out x....lol
whitehorse:: lol
jade: me too
ayla: lol
whitehorse:: sorry had to do that
whitehorse:: everyone have it
Lydea: yep
whitehorse:: this is relating to vision...the upper three squares are spiritual you...the middle three squares are the physical you...the lower three squares are the subconcious you...then the three right squares are the past...the middle three is the present...he left three is the future...do you have this wrote down?
SapphireHOST: yes I did it!!!!
whitehorse:: okay...now this is kinda like a tv screen...except when you are in the middle with things happening all around you at that time you are standing in the center square...so you have a vision...it moves across your screen the way it moves is what it is about past, present, future, physical, spiritual, subcon...usually sub has to do with emotions
whitehorse:: colors and numbers play a role in the vision...that is why direction colors
jade: are we looking "at" the "board", or from behind it?
whitehorse:: you are looking at the vision, dream with the board overlaying it
Lydea: I have a hard time understanding concepts unless I can see them put into practice..........could you take us through this with a specific example?
whitehorse:: yes
whitehorse:: will give example
whitehorse:: a person sees themself walking in this meadow of tall green grass and yellow flowers that spreads out in front of them there are snow capped mountains off to their right that circles partway in front of them but can't be seen directly in front because the mountains flow into a gentle slope which draws their eyes to a blue green lake that is to their upper left and circles bhind them
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whitehorse:: as they turn to look directly behind them they see nothing but this empty mea dow they turn once more to look in front of them they notice an elk walking towards the lake as it grazes on the lower part of the slope...this is the visual part...but the emotional part is this
whitehorse:: at first the person thought they are lost and become fearful because they have never seen this place before they start looking for the road instead of the road they see elk...as they watch elk a calmness comes over them and their fear leaves...they become quite comfortable just enjoying the view...what does this vision mean
Aquastar: quickly painting on both sides of the paper lol
whitehorse:: the meadow is in all areas...it is fertile ground...a place of growth,,,past present furture,,,spiritual, physical, and sub...the mountains show past cleansings...north purifacation of the heart...this cleansing brings about the slope in front of them...purification dedicated to the creator being is needed her to maintain their continual growth..the blue green lake water is purifaction...this is both spiritual purifacation and physical that is needed in future...left of person elk is by it's self...1...it is about self spending time with one's self..spending time with the same sex...and spending time with oppisite sex...it is saying this person needs to learn this..then the fear of being lost will leave
Lydea: what about the colors?
whitehorse:: white is north..mountains
whitehorse:: what do you want to know about colors
Lydea: I just wondered if there was significance in the colors seen here
ayla: I'll have to read the transcript for the rest - got to get offline - thanks whitehorse...bye to everyone
Lydea: the water could have been seen as crystal clear
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whitehorse:: yes it could have..but in this case it was blue green so it was about
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whitehorse:: growth thru cleansing that was for the creator being
whitehorse:: when clear water it is about just a cleansing
SapphireHOST: wow
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Lydea: my first impression of the elk that it was this person's power animal and that's why he/she felt better after seeing it
whitehorse:: this is where the power will come from if the person learns what elk has to teach
Lydea: ahhhh, so the elk teaches being with one's self?
whitehorse:: yes...and those of other sex...as well as same sex
Lydea: not sure what this lesson means exactly.............isn't this just learning social skills?
whitehorse:: spending time with each...some yes
jade: really connecting with self and others?
whitehorse:: but also learning how to gain energy by being only with self...and only with same sex...and only with other sex
Lydea: so bringing forward the masculine and the feminine in each of us
whitehorse:: yes creating a balance of both in the center of one
Lydea: okay, got it.........I hear tell Elk is one of my power animals so it was important to me to hear this, thank you
whitehorse:: must say you do ask better questions than the church i taught at
Lydea: lol...what church would this be?
whitehorse:: unitarian
jade: where can i get a transcipt - i joined very late
whitehorse:: to you sapphire
SapphireHOST: jade it will be listed on the log in page later otherwise see me in here and I'll give the URL to you
jade: k
whitehorse:: okay sapphire your question
SapphireHOST: I see about the same things over and over ...how do I learn the symbolism of what I see?
whitehorse:: animal?
Lydea: what do you see Sapphy?
SapphireHOST: welll you told me yesterday about the main animals ....but I go to the same place over and over and met the same person there
whitehorse:: there are some books out there that are very good about animals...you must study the life of what is coming to you...what they like and dislike..what are their life patterns..but when it is a person or spirit being this is different. than an animal plant rock spirit
SapphireHOST: so if you see water...it will make a different if it was a mountain stream rather than a lake for example....or is water water
whitehorse:: yes some differences
SapphireHOST: so how do you tell if it is a person or a spirit
whitehorse:: river is a blood offering of mother earth for you most times...sometimes river is about balancing the motion with the stillness...lake is taking a time out...being still and cleansing one's self...ocean in about cleansing one's self to bring about a birth
whitehorse:: if it is a person or a spirit...sometimes it can be a person that you know...that is a person if you don't know them it is spirit...that one was easier
SapphireHOST: ty :-)
whitehorse:: any other questions
Lydea: is there a book we could refer to to find out the dream symbols meanings as you have described them here?
jade: 10,000 - but i suppose patience is sometimes a good idea...
whitehorse:: i am in the middle of writing a book but know of many other on dreams,,,lots of new age ones
Lydea: I have a couple myself around here somewhere
whitehorse:: brb,,,all that talk about water works on a body
Lydea: lol
whitehorse:: lol
Lydea: White Horse Woman, I have a question but not about this chat
whitehorse:: so are there more questions i can try to answer
whitehorse:: go on lydea
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Lydea: I wondered if you throw bones in the New Age room on a regular basis and when that would be
Lydea: full and new moons?
whitehorse:: the next time will be between the 28th and 2nd...both
Lydea: k, so I'll try to get there on one of those dates
whitehorse:: do you want on the list
SapphireHOST: or perhaps you might want to do it in here?
jade: where is the na room?
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Lydea: yes I'd love to be on the list
whitehorse:: maybe one room one night other room next night
whitehorse:: hi larry
Lydea: that would be cool
whitehorse:: got you down lydea
Lydea: thanks
SapphireHOST: thank you whorsew for teaching us today
whitehorse:: 28th i will do na chat
whitehorse:: 29th in here
whitehorse:: you are welcome next time i'll get to numbers
Lydea: may 29th........exactly a week from today
whitehorse:: yes in evening
Lydea: of course your evening is two hours later than our evening
SapphireHOST: do you want to explain about the bone throwing first that night in here?
whitehorse:: now?
Lydea: maybe she can give a bit of a blurb on it so lila can advertise it on the intro page
SapphireHOST: yes Lydea she did mine at 3 in the morning our time
whitehorse:: okay
Lydea: lol..........No Doze here I come
whitehorse:: what i do
SapphireHOST: no that night whorsew
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whitehorse:: okay the night i toss them i will
Lydea: yeap but why not tell some of it now and then lila can get it on the intro page
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SapphireHOST: yes I just wondered if before you started throwing that night if you could explain...oh great idea Lydea
whitehorse:: what i have is some old bones that my grandmother gave me, i toss them, they land a certain way that has meaning, they make sounds that has meaning,they also speak at times, this i repeat to who they are being tossed to, that is what i do repeat what bones say questions
SapphireHOST: I have had them thrown...it is amazing
Lydea: so do you do this in an altered state of consciousness?
whitehorse:: no i just am centered so spirit can use me as a tool
Lydea: how long have you been doing this?
whitehorse:: took over for grandma five years ago...but have been doing some for 20 years
SapphireHOST: perhaps Lila would like to have you throw them for her but do it in open chat so people can see....or if she doesn't you I would let you do it that way
whitehorse:: sometimes it is quite personal, so it has to be up to the person how much they want others to see them
SapphireHOST: Can you throw for a person more than once?
whitehorse:: no
Lydea: really how come?
whitehorse:: don't have an answer...just can't
Lydea: does the person ask questions
whitehorse:: no i ask five questions
whitehorse:: first question...what is about to be birthed in this ones life
whitehorse:: second question...what growth will come from this birth
whitehorse:: third question...what needs to die in this person life so birth can happen
whitehorse:: fouth...what wisdom will come from this
whitehorse:: fifth...what will put this in motion
Lydea: wow
whitehorse:: these are the questions they will answer
Lydea: who is they?
whitehorse:: the spirits of the bones
Lydea: so what are the bones........chicken bones?
whitehorse:: not chicken
whitehorse:: but i believe animal...small bones..like from paws
Lydea: so do these spirits communicate with my higher self?
whitehorse:: they see your spirit and know it...if that is what you mean
Lydea: yes thank you
whitehorse:: any other questions
Lydea: so do your guides/teachers also work with the bone spirits?
Lydea: are you kidding?
SapphireHOST: whorsew I had a question for the medcine wheel or is it to late....
whitehorse:: i can't answer that never asked that question
whitehorse:: no sapphire not to late
SapphireHOST: when you using the tick tack toe symbol and seeing things symbolically were you in the Upper World or Lower World?
whitehorse:: it is overlaid on what you see to explain meaning...can be used on any vision or dream
whitehorse:: do you mean the example it wasn't mine...someone gave permision for me to use in my book
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SapphireHOST: no not the example...I was trying to figure out how to use the symbol
whitehorse:: okay..use as overlay
SapphireHOST: you have a book?
whitehorse:: writing one
SapphireHOST: brb
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whitehorse:: need the duct tape jade?
jade: yeah lol
whitehorse:: so larry what are you interested in
Lydea: thanks for explaining the bone throwing to us White Hose Woman
whitehorse:: yw
larry: plant using among native americans
whitehorse:: there are many
larry: yep
whitehorse:: any one plant got your interest
larry: yep right now cattails
whitehorse:: good food...good offerings...good mats..and baskets..good plant
whitehorse:: what do you use it for?
larry: just trying to learn right now
whitehorse:: the pollen is collected for offerings..hodenta leaves for mats and baskets..inside tender parts eating...raw roasted or boiled...my kids love it
larry: yep
whitehorse:: so you knew these things
whitehorse:: do you know other uses
Lydea: gotta go, see ya all later
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larry: the part that i would like to know is how ojebawa used for medicinal purposes
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whitehorse:: sorry i don't know medical use of cattail...except in hunger
larry: i guess the thing i would like to rediscover is how they knew to use plants for their properties
whitehorse:: testing them on self,,,small amounts at a time,,,see what they would do,,,handed down over years sharing knowlege
jade: gotta go-thank you White Horse Woman
leen: can someone explain what the medicine wheel is pls?
larry: sapp wake up
leen: sharing knowledge of healing?
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whitehorse:: you will need to read transcript when it is posted
whitehorse:: takes awhile to explainingg...i need to go
leen: no problem - sounds interesting
whitehorse:: i will see you later...by...leaving now sapphire...see you later
SapphireHOST: Thank you Whw for coming to day....I really learned a lot
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SapphireHOST: welcome to the healing chat....we just finished a talk on Medicine Wheel
Medicine Wheel for Beginners Chat Transcript


