Aurelia

your soul purpose would be to become spiritual?

Lydea

well the really fallacy here Aurelia is that I'm already spiritual, but for some reason I think I must work at this............smile

Aurelia

ahhh

Lydea

we are all born of spirit, but there are many ways we work at attaining a stronger connection to spirit

Wendy

why do u feel that Lydea?

lila

actually we are all spiritual beings

mamb

Agreed lydea

Lydea

yep, that's right

Lydea

so the next step for me since I'm working on my image about spirituality as being about having to give up something. I start to look around in my life to see how that is being played out, how am I reinforcing that image in my life right now and I see it with curiosity and wonder. ohhhh yes a couple of years ago I longed to complete the healing school I had started earlier and dropped out. this is part of my spiritual journey to attend this school but I dropped out because I had convinced myself it COST too much. I was certain it was about the money, but it actually was costing me much more than money. I was being guided and taught to go within and look at all my images in this school.

Stones77HOST

aaahhhhh i see

Lydea

I was being asked to release some of my long held beliefs, unblock my energy

Wendy

I understand what U mean.

Lydea

many of us at one point or another in the school think that maybe our marriages need to be released because our spouses just aren't very Spiritual, they don't understand how we sacrifice in our journey and just end up holding us back

lila

lose the ball and chain.....yes?

Lydea

yes exactly lila

Aurelia

I would think the hard part would be recognizing what your beliefs are that hold you back

Lydea

once again, how much do I/should I give up on this journey

Lydea

yes Aurelia

mamb

Are they not part of the journey, though, Lydea?

Lydea

it's about being honest, clean to the deepest part of you. They are very much a part of the journey mamb and that's what we finally began to see

Lydea

if I'm truly spiritual can I willingly surrender

Wendy

Does it count for your thoughts Lydea as much as your beliefs?

Lydea

to what my own divine plan or will my ego/personality self being in charge. Your thoughts are often a reflection of your beliefs Wendy

Wendy

to recognise the thoughts that block U from moving forward

Lydea

so the issue of surrender has come up over and over for me in life as it does for many of us

Lydea

questions anyone?

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Aurelia

It's easy to say "I surrender" but how do we actually do it?

Dreamtime

Lydea - what does surrender mean to you these days?

Lydea

lol, well dreamtime it's quite an odessey exploring this, so let's all join in on this one

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Lydea

Surrender means.........................

Quinn

Lydea, I think if someone stands in the way of your core beliefs or violates them it is best to leave

Lydea

fill in the blank with your first answer

Aurelia

peacefulness

Lydea

yes Quinn I understand what you mean

Wendy

is to be open to change

lila

is surrendering be like being willing stand on a corner waiting for a ride - or is it better to walk the path in the directiction accepting a ride if it is offered?

Lydea

good question lila, which is it for you?

lila

both..... I think, when my feet are tired I'll sit on the curb and wait

Lydea

lol

lila

but I get impatient waiting sometimes..... so start walking again

Stones77HOST

i think i would walk in the path, if a ride comes along fine, if not, i will get there anyway, may just take some extra time.

Wendy

I agree Stones

Dreamtime

:} Lydea - have realised why I am here - Catholic upbringing still has me with surrendering as - giving up the things I want

Lydea

surrender for me means I'm going to have to lay down my sword & shield ( my defenses) and simply allow whatever that needs to happen will happen

mamb

But you would always be what you are suppose to be doing, stone...in the right place

Stones77HOST

i agree mamb

Lydea

yep so as I said Dream some Images are universal, I doubt that we are the only two catholics who believe this

Quinn

surrender is recogonizing an obsticale as evaluating it and re directing to a path less obstructed to contine toward the ultimate objective

mamb

would be nice though, lydea!